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Well we've all just seen another example of someone trying to take a cut from someone else who actually does the work. We're all guilty of it to a certain degree...I have the work, you cover it for me....I take my cut, you take yours....but there seems to be a few out there who are trying to be clever and make money off others by cutting corners...and I for one don't like it.

AND....if the job changes enroute it starts to get complicated

Has this sort of thing not been going on for years?

Why does this happen, is it the extortionate cost these sites expect people to pay?

Can I also commend you in the way you word things, you have the knack, most people dont including me.

Well ty sir, I just say it how it is, my opinion right or wrong.

You might have started smoking again by 5pm today at this rate.

I myself considered a few years ago joining probably the biggest site, but I was put off  50%  by cost to join & 50% by lack of work in my area, now if you are going to do it properly you need to join, and be commited and proffesional about it and only then can you do a good job, get known, get repeat work & hopfully get paid, doing it the way you mentioned is heading for disaster you will come unstuck sooner or later.

Rob, your forgetting the 4 figure sign up fee for one of their franchises, which  is followed by a monthly subscription fee to the "exchange site" .

"drivers" all over the country each having paid a sign up fee £1***.

Do the maths.

Hey H...did I say it was him?....He's even more advanced than that....we're takin rip off to a completely new level there...no i refer to others elsewhere

Drop me a message Rob, if this is happening then people contracting out work need to know mate.  07525 008 493 - my direct line

So do you people really sub out work to people you have never heard off before !! ?

I know of one of the big companies in Sheffield that went back to DHL because it was eviendent that every Tom Dick and Harry was comming in and they got caught out big time the jobs had been yellowed and nobody comming in even knew the names of the people they were working for They completly lost trust

How do you build up a network if you don't use new people.

Are you honest with your customers though

Do you explain that some stinking gypo might turn up that nobdy knows anything about and we might not ever see again , Oh I forgot he is probobly acredited and has a yellow sticker in the corner of his windscreen with his number on !!!

Is it a case of I hope our customers dont find out what is going on or do you really feel you are giving your customer a really good service using people you dont know anything about

are you speaking from personal experience ?

You cannot say Stinking Gypo.

I think you will find the correct term is Hygienically and work challenged.

My customers want a Courier when they ring, and they get one. To label every Courier You don't know as not worthy of being able to do the job is a bit elitist. Do my customers know what exactly?..that i'm supplying them with what they asked for?...Tell me the difference between a driver you've taken on and given his 1st job to, and using a subbie you may not have ever used, but you can bet has done many jobs b4. Who's to say who is better?...I know where my money would be.

Well I had a job into Barnsley today which I couldn't get covered because the alert system has been down since yesterday. So I thought, why not ring Barnsley Shipping? then I thought, perhaps not, I know nowt about him, he's probably hygienically and work challenged!

lol...i think it works both ways...we have to trust that a courier can do what we're paying for...and he trusts us to pay him.....99.9% of the time it works.

I wonder if the same approach is used when touting for Business?

Were you wanting the job done on invoice?

I've heard alot recently about ppl on CX sharing log-ins, its been going on for ages, not just by individuals but whole companies, freight forwarders are on the site buying the work then pricing it out again to drivers they know, according to CX this is not allowed but they have not banned anyone, they even have companies that are complained about all the time and nothing done.

What do you call a massively reduced rate?

and you also have to realise that the forums are used by a very small %age of users, so reading them will always give a biased viewpoint

There are NOT people taking work, then subbing it out again....what there IS are members allowing others to use their membership to quote on jobs....and some are charging for the privilege. And if the vendor needs to inform the person he thinx he's sold it to of any changes enroute then it gets quite interesting I can tell you!!!....you ring one number, get given another, who might be the driver...might not....and after the 3rd or 4th time you get the driver you needed to talk to in the 1st place...it ain't right

 i rang and quoted for a job and was given another number to ring to quote, this other number was a different company than the one that posted the work.

Well as a Vendor I have 60mins maximum to get a Courier in to collect, sometimes less, and I need a site that works. 99% of the work I need covering is sold within 10mins on CX, regretably the same cannot be said of mtvan yet....yes i got the odd idiot but thankfully thats rare. Unfortunately we all remember the cock ups rather than the jobs that went fine, and I think forums reflect this.

Hi, Do you have ever any call for work in the wiltshire area? Am new to this website, and have been courier since January.

Do you have any ideas of how to get more work?