CLOVA COURIERS IN NORWICH

HAS ANYONE DONE ANY WORK FOR CLOVA COURIERS IN NORWICH?

Hi I'm Norwich based & never heard of them.

A Ltd company set up in 2012, operate 2 x vans and are members of the uShip network. No website.

As they are part of uShip, and based on what they're offering you, i would suggest they are amongst the relatively new breed of courier that scours the internet, from eBay to anyvan to uShip etc etc for household items to move. They plot a weeks worth of work leaving their base Monday Am and returning Friday PM. If you have the time and inclination then it can be a very profitable way of working but its not what i call courier work, and thats the problem. The word courier now covers too many types of moving goods, and that complicates things, especially for joe blogs not used to what a courier is, or what a courier does

By "part of uShip" i mean a member of

Thanks Mr Speed. I may give it a go for a week. Then I can report back to everyone.

Agree with Mr speed, there is a problem with names, as far as I would be concerned they are not a courier company but a parcel delivery service and offer something completely different from the bespoke same day urgent couriers on here. Its just a shame as you say that Joe and Josephene Public don't know the difference.

Or some "couriers" come to that!

In 1946 an Australian called Thompson (T. N. T.) came up with the idea of moving documents around Europe. The war had destroyed most of the continent It still goes on today Haulage, Parcel Delivery etc. The name "courier" today is irrelevant. Joe Public wants goods moving from a to b. The word courier is a person to guide or help tourists. The public don't know the difference because there isn't any.

saddlebow deliveries said:

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In 1946 an Australian called Thompson (T. N. T.) came up with the idea of moving documents around Europe. The war had destroyed most of the continent It still goes on today Haulage, Parcel Delivery etc. The name "courier" today is irrelevant. Joe Public wants goods moving from a to b. The word courier is a person to guide or help tourists. The public don't know the difference because there isn't any.

1946 Speedy was only 3 years old then

I'm not going to get too hung up about the word courier but its definition comes in 2 forms. The one listed by Mr Saddleblow, ie person to guide or help tourists, and the more relevant "a company or employee of a company that transports commercial packages and documents"

Notice it doesn't say "items of furniture from matey down the road bought from an aution site"

Unfortunately as many have come to diversify, it seems to cover the movement of anything from anywhere and in any time frame. And that's what i mean when i say it has complicated things and not surprisingly led to people getting confused as to who is offering what.

As far as i'm concerned the word courier means an urgent sameday got to be there like NOW kind of service.

To others it means anytime today as long as its cheaper than that lot over there, to others still, it means an overnight service, or a 2-3 day service where it goes through several hands, hubs, vans etc etc, or to a growing number, it means as cheap as possible cos although it seemed cheap when i bough it off the auction site, i didn't think about the cost of moving it!

The problem is everyone seems to think they have to offer all or some of all of the above. The problem i have with that is, how likely are you, for example, to get an urgent same day screamer if you offer a "we'll deliver it today but ever so slightly slower than our "premium" service", and at what point during the course of the day does an "anytime today" become a "gotta go now". I say that because if I have a London to Birmingham, and you offer 2 sameday service levels, i ring at, say 2pm, whats the difference between each level? You can't hold it waiting for a co-load, so for me, its a "gotta go now" but you offer an "anytime sameday". As i see it you're offering to do the job at a reduced rate, when there is no choice but to go now... Complicated!

Add to the mix the "i'm going that way so can do your sofa from Aberdeen to Plymouth for £30 and its no wonder people fall of their chair when asking for a quote from A to B

The word courier should mean urgent, now, straight away... Everyone else is a delivery man

Here here well said Mr speed, `tis my understanding of the word as well

Seems to be a touchy subject. If you think I am going to do work cheaper than the going rate you are very much mistaken. I don't care if the job is a pallet of shoes or a pallet of bricks. The customer MUST come first, without them we are all none working "Couriers". If you are only interested in commercial packages and documents then that's your business. Its not complicated, you should be providing a service what the customer wants if my price is not acceptable then they will try elsewhere. I am sure that when you buy your vehicles you shop around.

Just one more point. I don't know where you got the idea that I offer a "anytime sameday at reduced rates" service. Bordering on slander I think.

Seems i've hit a nerve. Nothing i have said on here is pointed at you, it is merely an observation of the growing number of courier companies offering a confusing number of choices for the consumer, a consumer who, in many cases doesn't know the difference between a sameday courier, and an overnght carrier, and who doesn't understand the definition of what a courier is, because as you so eliquently put it, "there isn't one". Not helped by certain companies using the word "courier" when they are in fact merely deliverymen... And there is a difference, believe me!

Just remember Mr Speed that "matey down the road who bought furniture from a auction site" could well turn out to be the owner of a company that uses couriers to deliver goods around the country.

To use your car analogy, there are minicabs, and there are chauffeurs, and lots inbetween. Would you order a minicab for your daughters wedding? Or get a chauffeur to take you home with your friday night kebab?

My point is that although there is a need for all the various forms of moving goods around, there is confusion, mostly by joe public as to what the difference is between us all.

Again, nothing i'ms aying is against you, although you seem to think it is?

There you go again assuming things. Yes I will use a chauffeur if I win the lottery on Saturday. Just let your customer know in plain language what you do and at what price. Simples. My son drowned in a swimming pool on his honeymoon I didn't need a minicab.

Didn't this all start with Clova Couriers in Norwich? I am off to move a bed from Lands End to Moscow. We must meet up sometime Mr Speed. Be lucky.

Enjoy comrade

Surely it'd be cheaper for them to buy one from Bensons for Reds.

I kno

RGM Courier Services said:

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Surely it'd be cheaper for them to buy one from Bensons for Reds.

Can you deliver it to Norwich anytime before the end of August 2018?