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Courier.MX Ltd

482
Original Poster

Just wondering if any larger companies with Accounts Departments can shed some light on a frustration for me...


I am totally technology based for everything from booking of jobs, PODs and invoicing.

Recently I've had a few accountants / book keepers / finance staff reply to the emails I've sent with invoices attached to say they do not accept invoices this way and please could I post it hard copy instead.

I'm just wondering what the actual difference is between me pressing Print, putting it in an envelope, placing a stamp on it and 3 days later it dropping on the door mat. Instead of them pressing reply, press print, reach over to the printer, taking the paper with the invoice printed on it and using that? Its only going to be input onto an accounting system and then placed in a folder anyway.

When I have suggested this I have been told that the invoice will not be registered as received until I post a hard copy, why are some people so antiquated or is there actually a good reason why my paper is more official than their own??


HSP Couriers LTD

1833

As you know Marcus from the job to france you did for us - that we also require the hard copy POD sent to us in the post (also paid invoice upon receipt)

Not you in particular mate, but we have come across many subbies who feel it is acceptable to send emails with invoices dated for when the email is recieved but do not feel it just as important to send us the pod. As a general rule of thumb - we require back the original paperwork for any work completed under our name.

Imagine getting approx 50 invoices per week and on top of that you have to filter out which pods have been recieved and which havent, which invoices have been recieved with and without pods. It gets time consuming and complicated sometimes too with more complex jobs or subbies that do 3 or 4 jobs a day for you.

If our customer requests the original paperwork back then thats what they get. No questions asked.

Hope this helps clarify mate, of why some people do not accept emailed invoices and require the paperwork back with the accompanying invoice.


Courier.MX Ltd

482
Original Poster

Thats fine H, and to be fair I see that point, but it's only relevant for me when talking about Euro work and CMR's. That is the only time I use a pen and paper, (unless specifically requested by the customer). 


I spent a long time and a lot of effort developing an app that produces POD's digitally. The contact signs the screen, the app produces a PDF with the signature on it, time stamped and GPS stamped with a googlemap thumbnail on it which is emailed to my customer from the point of delivery and again along with the invoice. I can't lose a carbon sheet of paper, i can't fudge delivery times, and I have a fall back if someone disputes where and when the item was delivered.

There is physically no difference in that paperwork between the customer printing it there, or me printing it and posting it. 

Unless, as with your, job it has special paperwork or a CMR, those I can understand but these ones didnt. It just bugs me...

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

I think its down to admin not being too good at what they do, to have to cross reference everything in triplicate, delaying tactics and for not being very up to date with the latest gizmo's.

We have an online booking system...how many use it?....one customer

Barnsley Shipping

5

I think young courier mx has a point hard copy PODs these days !!!!

Its 2012 dont tell your customer your a high tec company then send him hard copy pods

I have done this job for decades and I can honestly say the requirement for hard copy pods are getting less and a hard copy pod no longer holds in court as I discovered last year !!!

Most of our customers (courier and transport companies) care less and less about it and most prefere me to email PDF copies or what ever you call it if I can get the bloody thing to work and this is normally 3 days out 6 as a rule

Courier.MX Ltd

482
Original Poster

Young..? Hmmm I wish! Maybe compared to some but I was still born before Thatcher was PM...

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

Now why did you have to spoil things and mention her ffs??!!

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Quote: 'Now why did you have to spoil things and mention her ffs??!!'

Better than any of the Socialist inept w****** that have been in power since!

Nottingham & Derby Couriers

3179

I could not agree more with Rapid Light Transport!!!!

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

You think?

So the greed and "i'm all right jack" philosophy that she brought into society is something you applaud is it?...the destruction of our manufacturing base?....the profitable mining industry (yes profitable!!) that she destroyed just to take a stand against the unions who now have no power wotsoever...not to mention the f ing shoulder pads, rolled up jacket sleeves, miami vice esk??..lol
Oh the good old days of 15% interest

AND SHE NICKED THE FREE MILK FROM OUR SCHOOLS!!!!!

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

You really do have very short memories

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Free milk ??????  outdated and unnecessary!

Miners?   although sad that many lost jobs the Unions needed pegging back.  

Thatcher was the best PM since the WW2     

No short memories here, maybe you ought to question your memory?

BLAIR........... WORST PM EVER, he ought to be in the Hague being tried for War crimes!   Ruined the economy with the assistance of Brown. We as a Nation are still suffering from a decade of mismanagement!  

Socialism does not work  :)




Nottingham & Derby Couriers

3179

Socialism does work....................................In a socialist country....


GREAT BRITAIN is a capitalist country....    The 2 do not mix.


Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

Its Capitalism that doesn't work!!!

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Agree N&D  ..........SPOT ON!


Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

and what a marvellous way the coalition has got us out of the inherited mess....borrowing MORE than the previous govt....and into a deeper hole than ever

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Speed...............Everyone is Capitalist at heart including you  

Otherwise you would equally share with all, any profit that you make from your courier business     :)    

We are all [surely] in business to make money and better oneself, NOT share what you make with those that do not make the effort!




Courier.MX Ltd

482
Original Poster

Maybe I should have just said The Village People and YMCA was number 1 when I was born instead.....

Nottingham & Derby Couriers

3179

Hang on speed, If Capitalism doesn't work you would not be in business, Or at least all your profits would have to be shared out to people who choose SOCIALIST handouts as a way of life..
That's the labour way, Give everyone free handouts and they'll vote them back in....That's pure logic.

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

I enjoy some good banter,  but it's hard discussing politics with lefties :) so best quit the topic now.  


:)




Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

Oh dear...yet another one who believes the less well off are all spongers....wot a shame you can't think for yourself instead of spouting from the tory led press

I am not a capitalist...nor am i a socialist.....neither work as we can all see
and yes....maybe you should have mentioned Boney M...lol

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

sorry...village people ;0)

Nottingham & Derby Couriers

3179

Yes Courier MX ,
I'ts all your fault.
Oh no Rod stewart was number 1 when i was born!

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

says a lot Notts...says a lot

I have Spencer Davis Group "keep on running" as mine...lol

Nottingham & Derby Couriers

3179

Not all less well off are spongers.
I have first had knowledge of the spongers though.
Our office is on the next corner to the job centre and every single day i see people with Late model  BMW'S Merc's and Audi's park outside our office window and walk round to sign on, I wonder why they don't park in the car park opposite the job centre
Some of them have more gold than MR T.'

Talking of spongers ,Did anyone else see the story of the Bulgarian Gypsies with a new house in London in today's news?


Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

The welfare state is corrupt and doesn't work...trouble is what do you replace it with?

Its difficult to see those that really have a need as they're standing behind the scum that think its ok to take take take.But they are the minority, despite what the press try to tell those gullible enough to listen most people do NOT want to be on benefits
I say work for your benefits....so how socialist am i?

Nottingham & Derby Couriers

3179

I think that there should be no council streetcleaners, no litterpickers, no park staff.
Anything manual that is paid for via council tax etc should have all the direct labour drawn from people who sign on  "After all they are signing on to confirm that they are fit and looking for work"

If they don't turn up duduct some of the benefit.
To be honest i would even go as far as giving benefit claimants food vouchers that aren't redeemable against cigarettes  or alcohol.

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

N&D  put yourself up as a Candidate for the next round of elections.

You get my vote!

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

Bloody good idea H but you'd be making even more people redundant. My other half talked about food vouchers.....but you'd soon find they were being used to buy fags and booze on the black market...look at phone cards in prison...just another form of currency to what we already have. 

What you need to do is make em do things that aren't currently being done by anyone, or by the few....coppicing, dry stone walling, clearing canals and rivers of rubbish, general tidy up of all the litter...tidying of church yards...the list is endless and it doesn't all have to be yucky nasty jobs either.
Community Service is too often seen as a punishment...why not see it as an opportunity...for self worth and doing your bit for society and the greater good
Plenty of charities needing volunteers
16 hrs work per week to get your benefits...easy

Manadon Despatch

584

Well I think we should return to the days of feudalism, workhouses, and sending kids up chimneys ... them's proper Tory values.


Keep the peasants and serfs down at heel and in their rightful place. What say you, Alan?

MK BIKES

2821

Thatcher the "Milk Snatcher" wasnt her idea anyway!!


Labour started it in 1968 taking it away from secondary schools first

She followed throu in '71 with over 7's 

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

Sounds good to me Stuart   

RAPID LIGHT TRANSPORT LTD.

2848

That's right MK


It's the socialists that have short memories  :)

Blaming the current situation on the current Government after they screwed things up almost beyond repair!

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

Blame culture......why not spend that energy on all working together to get us out of the mess....(if it was all down to Labour why is it affecting the whole World economy)..rather than wasting it keep trying to out score eachother

We have been in deficit since 1987...the Bank of England was started in 1694 cos we had run out of money....deficit has been with us for Centuries...it isn't a Labour idea!!!!
Boom and Bust is the way Capitalism works....look at the History....and borrowing has been a part of govts budgets for decades...face it...it doesn't work and never will

Phax

2250

WOW I thought this was a courier forum. O/D are all one of a kind regardless of political bias. Lets leave the mud slinging to the papers etc. Knights of the road not of the realm.

Yes their odd policies affect us in many ways but screw them we are a collective.
OK Borg jokes now.........................resistance is futile.

Fastback Parcel Solutions

1701

Ahhhh  yes " resistance is futile" much like Boney M and Village people

Speed Couriers Nationwide Ltd

10314

What people forget is we all have opinions, and are entitled to voice them. Mine just happen to be right that's all



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